Comments on: Listen to an Uncommon Conversation from December 11th, 2008 – The Philosophy and Practice of Coaching http://coachingcommons.org/telecalls/join-an-uncommon-conversation-december-11-the-philosophy-and-practice-of-coaching/ Where Radical Possibilities are Explored & Pursued Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:20:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jeffrey Jones http://coachingcommons.org/telecalls/join-an-uncommon-conversation-december-11-the-philosophy-and-practice-of-coaching/comment-page-1/#comment-1018 Jeffrey Jones Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:36:06 +0000 http://www.coachingcommons.org/?p=2084#comment-1018 I am looking forward to this call - and have to comment in advance that considering the amount of time and energy that Diane has committed to the coaching industry as a whole, that she found enough time to write such a thoughtful and well researched chapter for this book is a testament to her professionalism and commitment. There were many elements in the case of "John" that I found useful. Particularly the evidence-based approach and complete bibliography were of interest. The one area that I hope you can address on the tele-call is related to the measures of success. There are many challenges to isolating the benefits/ impact of coaching in a complex organizational engagement. You posit, " the work that was most significant was related to coaching...". It seems obvious that from the anecdotal information you provided that this would be the case, but in hindsight, what would you do differently in order to provide stronger empirical evidence of the effectiveness/impact of coaching? In my client work, it is often the aversion of clients to the additional expense of robust measurement and monitoring of results that usually derails the plan for more accurate ROI studies. Did you experience this in John's case? If not, is there any reason you did not have a more comprehensive method for measurement. What methods have you found useful in the past and why? Thanks again to Diane and the other authors for an authoritative contribution to the global coaching knowledge base. If you have not yet read this book I highly recommend you add it to your "must read" list... See you on the call. Regards, Jeffrey Jones Executive Coach Human Factor International Hong Kong, SAR China I am looking forward to this call – and have to comment in advance that considering the amount of time and energy that Diane has committed to the coaching industry as a whole, that she found enough time to write such a thoughtful and well researched chapter for this book is a testament to her professionalism and commitment.

There were many elements in the case of “John” that I found useful. Particularly the evidence-based approach and complete bibliography were of interest.

The one area that I hope you can address on the tele-call is related to the measures of success. There are many challenges to isolating the benefits/ impact of coaching in a complex organizational engagement. You posit, ” the work that was most significant was related to coaching…”. It seems obvious that from the anecdotal information you provided that this would be the case, but in hindsight, what would you do differently in order to provide stronger empirical evidence of the effectiveness/impact of coaching? In my client work, it is often the aversion of clients to the additional expense of robust measurement and monitoring of results that usually derails the plan for more accurate ROI studies. Did you experience this in John’s case? If not, is there any reason you did not have a more comprehensive method for measurement. What methods have you found useful in the past and why?

Thanks again to Diane and the other authors for an authoritative contribution to the global coaching knowledge base. If you have not yet read this book I highly recommend you add it to your “must read” list…

See you on the call.

Regards,
Jeffrey Jones
Executive Coach
Human Factor International
Hong Kong, SAR China

]]> By: Martin Haworth http://coachingcommons.org/telecalls/join-an-uncommon-conversation-december-11-the-philosophy-and-practice-of-coaching/comment-page-1/#comment-1014 Martin Haworth Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:37:27 +0000 http://www.coachingcommons.org/?p=2084#comment-1014 I guess the next evolution of coaching is that it becomes not 'coaching', but just the way people are. Not a 'thing', but more of a way of being in their everyday lives. Regards Martin Haworth I guess the next evolution of coaching is that it becomes not ‘coaching’, but just the way people are.

Not a ‘thing’, but more of a way of being in their everyday lives.

Regards

Martin Haworth

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